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- 3:50 Does a ranking drop after a Core Update really indicate an issue with your site?
- 3:50 Should You Really Wait Before Optimizing Core Web Vitals?
- 3:50 Why is Google delaying the complete transition to the Mobile-First Index?
- 7:07 Can Google really delay Mobile-First Indexing indefinitely?
- 11:00 Why doesn't Google canonicalize URLs with fragments in sitelinks and rich results?
- 11:00 Do URLs with fragments (#) in Search Console mean you need to rethink your tracking and analysis strategy?
- 14:34 Why do the numbers from Analytics, Search Console, and My Business never match?
- 14:35 Why do your Google metrics never align between Search Console, Analytics, and Business Profile?
- 16:37 How are FAQ clicks really counted in Search Console?
- 18:44 Are mobile and desktop accordions really neutral for SEO?
- 18:44 Is it true that mobile accordion hidden content is indexed as visible content?
- 29:45 Does the rel=canonical via HTTP header really still work?
- 30:09 Does the HTTP header rel=canonical really work to manage duplicate content?
- 31:00 Why does Search Console still show 'PC Googlebot' on recent sites when Mobile-First Index is supposed to be the standard?
- 31:02 Is it true that all sites indexed after July 2019 default to Mobile-First Indexing?
- 33:28 Why does Google emphasize textual context in Search Console feedback?
- 33:31 Are Search Console tools really enough to solve your indexing problems?
- 33:59 Why are your pages still not indexed after 60 days in Search Console?
- 37:24 What happens when Google occasionally indexes HTTP instead of HTTPS even after an SSL migration?
- 37:53 Is it really necessary to combine both 301 redirections AND canonical tags for an HTTPS migration?
- 39:16 What really causes your sitemap to fail in Search Console and how can you effectively resolve the issue?
- 41:29 Is your brand disappearing from the SERPs for no apparent reason: can Google feedback really fix it?
- 44:07 Should you choose a subdomain or a new domain for launching a service?
- 44:34 Subdomain or New Domain: What Does Google Really Think for SEO?
- 44:34 Do Google penalties really transfer between domains and subdomains?
- 48:24 Should you really overlook PageRank when deciding between a domain and a subdomain?
- 48:33 Do links between root domains and subdomains really pass PageRank?
- 49:58 Should you really be worried about duplicate content from scraping?
- 50:14 Can you relaunch an old domain without being penalized for duplicate content by spammers?
- 50:14 Should you really report every scraping URL via the Spam Report to prompt action from Google?
- 57:15 Is it really necessary to report spam URL by URL to assist Google?
- 58:57 Why does Google refuse to show your FAQs in rich results despite perfect markup?
- 59:54 Why doesn't Google display your FAQ rich results even with perfect markup?
- 65:15 Is it possible to add FAQs to your pages just to secure rich results in SEO?
- 65:45 Can you really add a FAQ just to get the rich result without risking penalties?
- 67:27 Should you still optimize rel=next/prev tags for pagination?
- 67:58 Should you really submit all paginated pages in the XML sitemap?
- 70:10 Should you really index all category pages to optimize your crawl budget?
- 70:18 Should you really stop placing category pages in noindex?
- 72:04 Does the number of JavaScript files really slow down Google indexing?
- 72:24 Does Googlebot really render all JavaScript in a single pass?
Google deliberately refuses to confirm whether manual or algorithmic penalties affect an entire domain or just the sanctioned subdomains. This opacity aims to prevent spammers from exploiting system weaknesses. For SEO professionals, caution is advised: it's better to treat each subdomain as potentially exposed rather than speculate on the assumed impermeability between them.
What you need to understand
Why does Google remain so vague on this topic?
Google's strategy is based on a simple principle: the less spammers understand the mechanisms of penalty propagation, the less they can circumvent them. If Google confirmed that a manual action on blog.example.com never affects shop.example.com, malicious actors would massively create sacrificial subdomains to test the limits of the system.
This approach of “strategic vagueness” applies to many SEO aspects — crawl budget, ranking factors, detection thresholds. Google rarely provides actionable binary rules. The implicit message? Don’t look for loopholes, build cleanly.
What is the real difference between a domain and a subdomain in Google's eyes?
Technically, a subdomain like blog.example.com can be treated independently from the root domain example.com. Google has reiterated: subdomains can be crawled, indexed, and ranked separately. A subdomain hosted elsewhere, with a different CMS and a distinct editorial line, resembles an external site more than just a mere section.
However, this technical separation does not necessarily imply total isolation of quality or spam signals. Google aggregates data at multiple levels — IP, WHOIS ownership, link structure, user behavior. A root domain penalized for massive spam could logically “contaminate” the overall reputation, even if algorithms treat each subdomain as a distinct entity during crawling.
Does this statement change anything about our understanding of how Google operates?
Not really. It confirms a known stance: Google never documents its anti-spam mechanisms precisely. Public guidelines talk about “best practices” but never about thresholds, propagation delays, or penalty legacies.
What’s interesting is the implicit advice: don’t create content that could risk manual action, period. Rather than speculating about permeability between subdomains, treat each property as if it could affect the whole. This is the only defensible long-term approach.
- Google does not reveal propagation rules to prevent spammers from taking advantage of them
- Subdomains can be treated independently at the crawl/indexing level, but not necessarily at the overall reputation level
- The only viable strategy: avoid any content that could trigger manual action, regardless of the (sub)domain
- Google's vagueness on this point aligns with its general non-disclosure policy of anti-spam mechanisms
SEO Expert opinion
Does this statement align with real-world observations?
Yes and no. In practice, there are indeed cases where a penalized subdomain visibly does not affect the root domain — typically an abandoned WordPress blog under blog.brand.com while www.brand.com continues to rank normally. Conversely, some sites have seen all their properties plummet after a manual action on a single subdomain.
The problem? These observations remain anecdotal and do not allow for a reliable rule. Too many variables come into play — type of penalty (artificial links vs. automatically generated content), volume of detected spam, domain history, internal links between subdomains. Difficult to isolate causality.
What nuances should we add to this official position?
First, let’s distinguish between manual actions and algorithmic penalties. A manual action reported in Search Console generally targets a specific area — a section, a type of pages, sometimes the entire site. Algorithmic penalties (historically Panda, now Core Updates) function differently: they assess the overall quality of a domain and can effectively “spill over” if Google aggregates signals at the root domain level.
Next, the notion of “propagation” itself is vague. Is it direct contamination or a degradation of overall trust? A root domain caught red-handed in spam link-building will likely see all its subdomains scrutinized more closely, even if no formal penalty “propagates.” The effect remains the same: loss of visibility.
[To be verified] Google has never published any quantitative data on the frequency or conditions of propagation. SEO experiences are biased — there’s more talk of problematic cases than of situations where everything works normally. Impossible to quantify the actual risk.
In what cases might this rule not strictly apply?
If you use subdomains for truly distinct business entities — for example, a marketplace (shop.example.com), an editorial blog (mag.example.com), and a customer area (account.example.com) — and these properties have no editorial or technical links between them, the risk of cross-contamination is likely low.
But beware: as soon as there is massive internal linking, a common footer with links, or a similar editorial structure, Google may legitimately consider the whole as one single site. In this case, a manual action on one is very likely to affect the overall perception, even without a formal notification on the other subdomains.
Practical impact and recommendations
What concrete steps should be taken to limit risks?
First rule: regularly audit all your subdomains, including those you may have forgotten. An old, indexable staging subdomain, an abandoned blog full of spam in comments, a temporary promotional site turned into a link farm — all ticking time bombs. Disindex or remove what is no longer useful.
Second imperative: apply the same quality standards everywhere. If your main domain adheres to guidelines, but blog.yoursite.com hosts automatically generated content or dubious backlinks, you create an inconsistency that Google might penalize. Treat each subdomain as a public showcase of your brand.
What critical mistakes should absolutely be avoided?
The classic mistake: to consider a subdomain as a “protected space” to test aggressive techniques. Spoiler: it never works for long. Google has enough signals (Search Console property grouping, Analytics cross-domain tracking, internal links, WHOIS) to connect the dots.
Another trap: multiplying subdomains to fragment content without a clear strategic reason. Each subdomain potentially dilutes overall authority and complicates management. If you cannot justify the existence of a subdomain by a significant business or technical difference, it’s better to use subdirectories (/blog, /shop) that concentrate authority on the root domain.
How can you check that your subdomains do not expose you to a penalty?
Start by exhaustively listing all active subdomains — a complete DNS scan via tools like dnsdumpster or SecurityTrails often reveals surprises. Then, check the indexing status of each with a site:subdomain.example.com search in Google. Any indexed content must be audited.
In Search Console, add each subdomain as a distinct property and monitor notifications of manual actions. Cross-reference this data with a backlink audit (Ahrefs, Majestic) to detect any toxic links pointing to subdomains you do not actively monitor. An old subdomain may have been spammed without your knowledge.
- List all active subdomains and check their indexing status
- Add each subdomain to Search Console to monitor manual actions
- Audit the backlinks of all subdomains, not just the root domain
- Apply the same editorial quality criteria to all subdomains
- Disindex or remove obsolete or worthless subdomains
- Never use a subdomain as a “sandbox” to test dubious SEO techniques
❓ Frequently Asked Questions
Une pénalité manuelle sur un sous-domaine affecte-t-elle automatiquement le domaine racine ?
Puis-je isoler un contenu risqué sur un sous-domaine pour protéger mon domaine principal ?
Les sous-domaines et sous-répertoires sont-ils traités différemment en cas de pénalité ?
Comment savoir si un vieux sous-domaine que j'ai oublié me pénalise ?
Faut-il systématiquement supprimer les sous-domaines inutilisés ?
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